All Kings. Could not remember the name of the group that's local. Thanks for your share and I'm resonating with your perspective on "stoic" and men needing more "in to me see"- intimacy.
Really enjoyed this article. As a rapidly aging white man (just turned 50), this spoke to me. If I were to add anything to this in terms of social community: you might want to consider looking into F3. I've found this organization to be kind of a pressure release valve for myself and other men as we go through our trials and tribulations. I'm based in Houston, but this organization is nationwide in the US now and growing rapidly. f3nation.org and you can always google for more info. And would love to visit Burning Man someday! :)
This is good stuff Johnny. I may be getting the Stoics wrong but I think they believed in the emotional being of the human experience. I'd say they utilized a cognitive behavioral approach such as "this doesn't need to be a thing" kind of approach. What does Ryan Holiday say? Perhaps it's more of a DBT in "wise mind" for approaching life? I see we both are in Brooklyn (?). Once again, good stuff and yes, sadly, white men are killing themselves at a pretty high rate when they make the attempt. What sort of emotional courage are you modeling in the world? Do you have a men's group or "boyfriends" as they would never be called? I prefer brothers, but I do play around with the male version of what women often refer to as their "girlfriends".
Thank Michael. I do think stoicism has its benefits, especially when it comes to overcoming real world challenges. "The obstacle is the way" is a great motto for facing problems as opposed to avoiding them. But I think in modern times it tends to make men better workers as opposed to creating more intimacy and connection, which is what I think most men lack. And while stoicism itself doesn't espouse "grit and bear through it," that is what it's been watered down to when they think of themselves as "stoic," which is why I'm not a fan of stoicism as an identity.
And I certainly am a fan of men's groups. I work with All Kings (allkings.org) and have one amongst friends that meets every other week.
Burning Man as the new Freemasons is a 🔥 take and spot on. Nice
All Kings. Could not remember the name of the group that's local. Thanks for your share and I'm resonating with your perspective on "stoic" and men needing more "in to me see"- intimacy.
Good reflections. Would read much more on this too!
Thanks Paul! Will think about what a part II could look like.
Really enjoyed this article. As a rapidly aging white man (just turned 50), this spoke to me. If I were to add anything to this in terms of social community: you might want to consider looking into F3. I've found this organization to be kind of a pressure release valve for myself and other men as we go through our trials and tribulations. I'm based in Houston, but this organization is nationwide in the US now and growing rapidly. f3nation.org and you can always google for more info. And would love to visit Burning Man someday! :)
I’m a big fan of F3! I interviewed outgoing CEO John Lambert a few months ago here https://open.substack.com/pub/johnnybowman/p/fitness-fellowship-faith-with-john
I also include them as part of my directory of men’s groups at findamensgroup.com.
More people need to know about it!
You should have said "Slaughter", that would have perked my ears up quicker! Sorry to miss this post, late joiner here. Loving what you're doing.
Lol true!
This is good stuff Johnny. I may be getting the Stoics wrong but I think they believed in the emotional being of the human experience. I'd say they utilized a cognitive behavioral approach such as "this doesn't need to be a thing" kind of approach. What does Ryan Holiday say? Perhaps it's more of a DBT in "wise mind" for approaching life? I see we both are in Brooklyn (?). Once again, good stuff and yes, sadly, white men are killing themselves at a pretty high rate when they make the attempt. What sort of emotional courage are you modeling in the world? Do you have a men's group or "boyfriends" as they would never be called? I prefer brothers, but I do play around with the male version of what women often refer to as their "girlfriends".
Thank Michael. I do think stoicism has its benefits, especially when it comes to overcoming real world challenges. "The obstacle is the way" is a great motto for facing problems as opposed to avoiding them. But I think in modern times it tends to make men better workers as opposed to creating more intimacy and connection, which is what I think most men lack. And while stoicism itself doesn't espouse "grit and bear through it," that is what it's been watered down to when they think of themselves as "stoic," which is why I'm not a fan of stoicism as an identity.
And I certainly am a fan of men's groups. I work with All Kings (allkings.org) and have one amongst friends that meets every other week.